You highlight the importance of fastidiousness in the articles that I reference. I believe the backpack was placed near the river in order to indicate where the remains would be found (like a flag), and perhaps the backpack was provided in hopes to receive the reward money, and the location of the backpack meant that searches would move to a different location (potentially because the police were too close to the suspects at the time). Kremers and Froon set out into the forest along thePianista Trail around 11 amon April 1, 2014,with only a backpack between them. There are more answers out there that are still possible to gather. Let me know about your opinion heres the link https://youtu.be/4wqUCG5bxns loads of greetings Mel. Even a subtle untimely laugh behind a mans back in Latin America can create a hostile situation if the women were alone later. All facts are not available in this case. Didnt they cross the line where it had a clear sign not to cross it? One day in June, the tribespeople bring him what he wants; The backpacks and the bodies. Debra Ann Velleman, of Waukesha, Wis., and Sue Borries, of Teutopolis, Ill., are missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama on Jan. 3, 2022. I think the camera dried and started working again and they took pictures at night. Use soft language and leave out gory visuals in what you write. Id love to know if these pics exsist. In May, a 61-year-old American man went missing and was presumed to have gone overboard while on a cruise through the South Pacific, according to a report from the Australian Associated Press. Thorough job, very insightful and so well done Please visit Panama and further investigate. In the days following the students' disappearances, authorities conducted footand aerial searches. Sure, anyone can do these things with a computer and specialized knowledge but with this level of competence? Around 2 oclock. Did they each have a camera or only Lisanne? The place itself might reveal some clues as to what sort of person or people would construct it and what are the chances of them doing something bad. But there are a few holes in this particular theory. The bag contained her camera as well as two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, Froons passport, a water bottle, two bras, and both womens phones. Were their phones not able to text? If the Calderas photo is genuine as you believe, then I sadly think the two girls were killed shortly after by the two young men (and possibly the taxi driver), and the police knew and bumped the lot off. Perhaps the women were lured there to be shown something. Thats suspicious and leads me to question if government was involved to some degree. Zooming in I swear its a person standing Hidden amongst the tangle with body paint. This story struck my heart. But in a country of just 300,000 people, how much tourism is too much? The overriding input is human. Theres a lot of loose ends to be tied up, but I think this 2021 investigation can do it. . To Janice To me it looks as if shes holding up one hand cupping her ear as if to hear something being shouted to her. Im always looking for answers. It looks like an indigenous person with shiny black hair walking away from Kris. Theres A red plastic bag above Kris in a tree to her left. Do the additional photos reveal anything more? Given that most people crop off the top of this image, people would have missed the findings that I mention below. The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been recovered, officials said. They had planned a trip in the forest the next day, on April 2nd, with a local guide. Shes describing the things youve noticed on the pic!!!! While some believe Kris and Lisanne died in an accident, the ex-cop slammed the police investigation in Panama as shoddy and said it should be redone. Hey Im not sure if someone already pointed it out but does everyone see the orange drawing on the bottom right? However, any link that requires any form of downloads, account creation or spammy activity, to view linked content, will not be permitted. And if suspects were clicking photos, and knew how to operate a smartphone, they would not return the phones. They had more than enough evidence and leads to solve the case but they ignored so much of the evidence. I suspect the timestamps on some images are incorrect. after studying the original photo, she is actually posing sticking her tongue out, in a slight hunched over salute, the light is hitting her hand, her pose and demeanor makes me believe it is Lisanne taking the photo. The internet does not have the most crucial information about the case. And the hair photo shows him holding Kris by the neck (you can see his fingers, one wearing a silver ring with faces engraved on it). Also, the parents did not release all the images. He goes down some intriguing avenues which while I may not agree with either the direction or point have value because they stimulate me to think. The real question is wether or not there is a cave or dwelling behind her. January 4, 2023. https://postimg.cc/94q0cVhH. Returning the phones + money immediately made it look like they werent attacked for robbery. The photos give the appearance that they are PROMPTED to go ahead by someone. Also last year, 22-year-old Florida man Craig Taylor was found strangled to death on a dirt road in Punta Sam, north of downtown Cancun. You can bet your life if someone was with them at that point, then they were the culprits who had something to do with the girls disappearance. For the first handful, a correct password was entered. That said, tourists wear shorts and sandals because they are not used to the heat or aware of such social norms. The problem with the links you are providing is not that the links themselves are necessarily unsafe (they could be, but we wont test them)the problem is that ALL of your links require users to download some form of content. Gangs usually just compete against each other and sometimes tourists are victims of opportunism or caught in the cross-fire. She looks as if her hands are above her head in a way someone would have them if a police officer were to tell them to put their hands above their head. Also right inside the cave looks like a fox or something similar is painted on the rock. People usually have dogs for a mild form of protection. Out of all the photos that have been released this photo disturbs me the most. It looks a bit wierd, but that is just because everybody is assuming they see her upper arm when in reality is is her lower arm. Local authorities dont often feel a sense of responsibility to victims and their families. She ties the red bags to branches so they can spot her if they get near. Perhaps this stranger had suggested he could guide them on a more interesting trail, or show them something interesting in the jungle. I hope someday the family has answers. Hi Justin, Well done the image is really sharp now. I cant say what it is, but it looks similar to an object, that can be seen in some of the nighttime photos, like in this one here. Hi Mel, thanks for sharing. But in the last year, several mass graves have been unearthed, revealing to the world a dark practice of human sacrifice which is thriving in the jungles of Panama. The 3 of them died shortly after being in contact with the girls. We can only speculate without more evidence of that. This case is certainly not finished. Things Tourists Should Never Do in Panama, Ever - Culture Trip If a cave was found that would be big news and there could be DNA evidence inside it. The rich pay for their own security and the poor resort to vigilantism. if you break your ankle in a fall and die your foot is likely to be found IN the shoe as is what happened. Well-worn paths do not lead into a pit. Possibly that info can help. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. The deaths of more than 4,680 people have been documented during migration in Asia since 2014, often linked to the exodus of the Rohingya from Myanmar. The simplest is for them to disappear. I upscaled that image with AI correction and its 100x more clear that there is obviously a trap or makeshift roofing above her. thank you for sharing this. Hands tied behind her back, face looks a bit puffy too, as if been in an altercation of sorts. Therefore we cannot conclude that a dog was even with them. When neither Froonnor Kremers turned up, the community decided to wait until the next day to contact authorities. Youtube channel backpackercoach or backpackingcoach i think, has a video called is it a cave? where he shows a section of trail that looks much like that. I think that this is a photoshopped image made by cutting out a picture of Kris and pasting it onto a background to give the false impression that Kris and Lisanne went on the Pianista Trail. I would start at both ends of the trail meaning working forward from where they started their walk and backwards from where their pathetic remains were found. It happens often and I cant even imagine how horrible it was. The girls were no longer alive after April 2nd latest. Theres some type of red and black object at the top of the photo. Notice how Juan has actively injected false information into the public investigation, including a picture of 4 people standing in a pond with heavily photo edited faces (one of them has their head moved off of the neck in a very obvious edit). Why did he leave them? The branches above her could be an attempt to hide the entrance. What is clear is that on that fateful day the girls went out for a short hike and never came back. I live in a third world country and sometimes tourists come to grief. This article seems to have a crop from high resolution version of the above photo. From 508 onward. How many tourists go to Australia? I dont know if youve noticed this or not. Poor investigations and low standards are very common in these under-developed countries. If thats what Im seeing, I have no doubt that it was murder and that this photo and several others have been manipulated. by Chris | Jan 29, 2020 | Crime Abroad, Kris Kremers. Also, it wouldnt make sense if Lisanne didnt know Kris password. I agree w rope around waste thst wasnt there before, hair is completely down Aldo, shes in distree. For one, the girls' camera had photos on it from hours after they stopped dialing emergency services. 1. Happy reading! Yes, this was taken after their photos at the Mirador. The total number of people who have gone missing in Mexico since 2006 and have never been found stands at almost 87,855, according to the government from a report earlier this year. Lisanne sets up a SOS with toilet paper and a mirror, hoping to get the attention of the helicopters. When the girls were vacationing in South Panama it shows a photo of them in the ocean, and behind them in the ocean is a fat white man seemingly staring at them. Before that, in image 507 & 508, you can see Kris in a stiff, nervous posture, because the girls saw someone they were afraid of closing in. Regarding the photos, I have no idea why they would be taking these, deleted some later and left this one, especially since the ribbed roofing structure is somewhat obvious. I like the wit and sarcasm. This connected callwas stable for roughly two seconds. Missing migrants | Migration Data Portal Her hands are not tied. Wow, theres a lot going on in this picture. There may be some evidence on its fur like fingerprintsdnaplant/vegetation etc. She realizes she has to try to find the river and decides to leave at dawn. A Panamanian search and rescue team helped recover the bodies after more than 690 hours of searching, authorities said. Looks like shes holding her hand up to shield her eyes. At 2:50 they start walking up to what I believe is the location in this photograph, Not a cave but an old bridge you can see the railing and bridge post and there is a weird shadow to the left behind the railing. You see the pattern to the left and right of her arm. After days reviewing the evidence, Im now going to share a synopsis of what I believe happened there in the deep, dark cloud forest of Panama. So, their work was good but not perfect. as a hiker myself, it would be totally unnatural to hold your hands behind your back in that way AND bend your body AND twist your body out of alignment. Also there is a consistency to the timing of SOS attempts occurring two times each day +/ a few minutes of the exact same time. Many cold cases have been solved years later. She clearly thinks shes found something amazing. Emilio Virola - 12 years in prison. We usually permit our commenters to publish links to external material, and you are welcome to do the same. Even the cheap pair of sunglasses are in perfect condition. Youre welcome to do that other places online. One thing which confused me were the bras the smaller one looks more like a bikini top. So many questions and there is no clear starting place like a police report to read. Its a subtle difference, but you can tell the girls smiles are forced in those two photos and are not like the natural happy smiles in the other summit photos. Once you see it, you cannot unsee see it. As you say, it might be better if you were able to lay out the photos and see how they seem to fit together. Tourists Killed in Mexico Is it Safe to Go Now? - Yahoo! Most travelers that have big experiences want to remember the small details of trips, because the trip represents an important memory in their life. I would prefer to stay anonymous and off the website, so you have permission to use my email. The finding of the backpack 14 miles away is too incredulous to be believed. Disturbing evidence also showed there were a number of failed attempts to unlock Kris' phone - sparking another theory that Kris had died and Lisanne was frantically trying to access her phone to get help. This tells me that they had a time in their minds of what time to leave to get back to their host home in Boquette. The FBI and others have continuously tried to stonewall him from publicly making these cases and their bizarre circumstances publicly known. For me the strongest clue that not anything sinister happened is that the family refused to have ALL photos released because some show the girls in a very rough state. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Cheers. As well as lots of other things It shows her right arm more clearly and it looks as though there is something square where you would expect her right elbow to be strange. That would account for a canopy structure being built there. If I remember correctly half of a pelvic bone was found that belong to the other girl so I think we should give the other girl some thought. There IS anecdotal info that Lisannes BF made contact with her at 1400 or so on the 1st April but maybe that was Dutch time not Panama time? Not getting any fingerprints looks suspect. For forensic work, any such upsampling is worthless. Over four days, 77 separate attempts had been made to call the cops - using the emergency numbers in both the Netherlands and in Panama. For a monster (him or them) this was enjoyment. You mention the research team. Most fingers seem to point to the Panama authorities, who have also been blamed for a poor initial search in the immediate days after the disappearance. I have spent a lifetime walking in the forest near my home and I dont see the odd things that people see. Unfortunately the resolution is not high enough to identify any specific shapes, although it appears to contain the colors white and red. Ive written about dozens of stories involving incompetence of law enforcement in disappearance cases. This is a great question. The phones showed that just hours after the beginning of their hike, someone dialed 112 and then 911. The BLUE object on ground could be a BRA. Thats just shadow that the camera didnt illuminate. This is something I will surely investigate more and write about in the future. Has anyone gone back to the spot where the photo was taken? A priest of sorts. and happened to Kris that would explain why Lisannes phone was first one used to make an SOS call. People in developed countries often have a more ideal view of what a pet represents. I think investigation isnt the correct word. So without doubt, someone tampered with the photos to some degree. Jeroen Jumulet / Stringer / AFP / Getty Images, Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. Too many coincidences. Exhausted and waited somewhere near water for days. While posing with sticking out your tongue means for a Dutch native you found something disgusting, especially while simultaneously closing your eyes. Or maybe the girls were using the flash as light in the dark. If someone had access to their phones, they might have deleted them. 2. Water bottle photo: Another case that comes to mind is the case of Holger Hagenbusch: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/holger-hagenbusch-a-disturbing-murder-and-exposed-coverup-in-mexico/. They provide a live accounting of missing-persons cases. They usually drown their victims, hit and run car accidents, or just disappear the victim, etc anything that ensures theres no obvious intent to the police. Or perhaps its an offshoot from the trail along a natural gully that leads to a dead-end? Heres what I think happened. The emergency calls still dont go through. There is nothing ominous or cause for concern in this particular pic. At first glance I just thought she was looking for something. Eerie Photos Reveal Last Moments Before Women Vanished in Panama Thank you, Sue. After exhaustive thought, my theory: First, respect to family, friends, and the good. Update Dec 2, 2021: The full-resolution version of this photo was released in 2021. Also I have read that during the time they tried to contact emergency services one phone connected albeit briefly. This backpack suddenly showed up 2 months after the disappearing. The camera and photos were tampered with with photos removed and other photos cropped and reduced in size. Anyway thanks again this is such a fascinating case I wish there would be some kind of closure for the families (although I saw a you tube video that interviewed the father of one of the girls, he said that they hired their own investigator and determined they died of an accidental fall. Very interesting and completely changed my mind. I have a working theory of the predator (not a specific name). The chain of custody is muddy. I find it odd that the young American girl was murdered not long after this not far away as with the taxi driver who was found depended likely murdered. Fact. The black twigs can be seen growing up, as all vegetation/trees do to harness the sun, but the ones above her are clearly bent in a horizontal and parallel formation. Also and I am assuming the phones where in their possession the phones actually did acquire a signal some times but clearly they were not being used so they did not know. Were trying to raise $5,000 for gear, security, transportation and food. I agree with you that what happened is not some misadventure. So sad what happened to them today is the first Ive heard of the story and its wildly upsetting. The red and black objects look like bolt cutters or tree cutter. If you are in the middle of the jungle, lost, and desperately trying to find service, why waste your battery by logging into your phone. And that looks to be a stocker style stand. They are free now. There are no public statistics. Or whoever deleted the photos may have overlooked to delete this one as they could have done it in a hurry as well. Nobody knows what happened to Kris and Lisanne and everything is open to speculation until more information is found. Curious if people have found these specific locations and done some extensive testing and exploring in those and surrounding areas?