She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. I wanted to get out of there.. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). WebAmina and Sarah Said were murdered by their father Yaser Abdul Said an Egyptian immigrant on January 1st 2008. Prosecutors said Said, a native of Egypt, was angry that his daughters were dating and that the boys were not Muslim. And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. in emerging media and communication from the University of Texas at Dallas and an M.S. And she would just call out of the blue., According to the Free Patricia Rorrer page on Facebook:I called him to let him know that I was going to the USA finals for a horse show. The prosecution alleged that Patricia called the Katrinaks house from a pay phone in Pennsylvania. After an hour Id call anyone whod listen to me including police! Thank you and well said. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. The couple was not allowed to have contact during court proceedings. That poor child who grew up with no mom for absolutely no reason. Andy did end up moving to Colorado with her and the last time I checked, they were still together. There are those on this very site who express their disappointment she was not executed. Its been going on for almost 31 years, the distraught man explained. After the guilty verdict was pronounced, the defense learned that a report from a state psychologist was not given to the jury. There is so much in your comment with which I can take issue, but Ill try to keep to the salient points. It says that Andrew Katrinak passed his lie detector test. A correction to the comment above. And Andrews explanation of how the intruder got in through the basement door seemed contrived, according to Grube, who gave an interview to Wrong Man, a 2020 true-crime docuseries from the Starz network, which produced two episodes called The Hang Up about the Rorrer case. . Patrica Owens, Yaser Said's ex-wife, testified before the jury Thursday morning and said why she fled her home with her daughters only to return days before they were You seem to have a fragile ego. John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. Trash-talking ex. The investigation is a bit out of place, but the DNA test can be altered only if its made just from a pen, because otherwise it is not possible, only if they said they did it and didnt actually do it, which would be quite difficult because it would mean complicity between many persons. Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. Men who murder are conventional, women are sensational, posits the Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network. [emailprotected]. They tested the hair last night on Reasonable Doubt using updated technology it is definitely Patricias. But I suppose you havent a clue about that. In 1981, Patricia Wrights second husband, Willie Jerome Scott, was found stabbed to death in his mobile home park in Los Angeles. Patricia and Mark McCloskey, the St. Louis homeowners who pointed guns at protesters, pleaded not guilty Wednesday to weapons and evidence tampering charges. Hoist by your own petard. Claps! It has very bad energy. Patricia McCloskey, who menaced the marching crowd with her finger on the trigger of a handgun, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was ordered to pay a fine of $2,000. Patricia Mark and Patricia McCloskey For more on the Katrinak murder case, you can watch Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction for free on YouTube. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. All of them returned without a DNA analysis because they contained no root material. During Patricias hours-long turn in the witness chair, Michael McIntyre grilled her relentlessly. Am I missing something? 5 years prior to all this happening! On Alexs diaper bag, police found strands of the same type of hair from the car. Oh, and she was so obsessed with him that she started dating and found herself a boyfriend that was not only younger, but much more attractive than Andy? I also communicated with Patricia via email to get her input on some matters. I am reliably informed they took SIX hours, not TWO as stated in my comment. Prue is currently serving a life sentence with the eventual opportunity for parole. Unlike most people who stayed on the streets all day, she maintained a neat, attractive appearance, wearing makeup and a dress or skirt each day. And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? Hoist by my own petard! What has that to do with the point youre trying to make? Lets stop pretending we can definitively prove this woman murdered this woman and her child. "This was not a sudden or impetuous act on your part. How would an intruder find it? Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? I cant lose them, he told the media. The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. The obvious, if moot, response to this is to observe that her conviction wasnt based on inaccurate documentaries but on trial. Owens and her sister, Connie Moggio, entered the courtroom together. "Justice would have been the Irving Police Department doing their job," defense attorney Joe Patton said during closing arguments. We should be skeptical of those, like you, who suggest its obvious a jury got it wrong that you know better than 12 people presented with the evidence. A Pittsburgh-area woman missing for over 30 years and declared legally dead several years ago has been found alive in Puerto Rico, authorities in Pennsylvania said on Thursday. Guilty I thought the justice system in my state and the people were narrow-minded and corrupt. Let her rot like she left Joan and that INNOCENT baby Alex. No activity on her bank account or credit cards took place after the day she went missing, so investigators dismissed the theory that she took her child and bolted. This witness was never revealed to Rorrers defence. They need to test that hair from Joanns hand and also that broken fingernail. Rorrers filed multiple appeals over issues you raise, the latest recently and rejected. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. Patricia Kopta appears in two photos, spaced some 31 years apart, after being discovered alive in Puerto Rico after being declared dead. Yassein Saids sentencing has been set for June 4. At one point, Owens looked directly at Said and reminded him of all of the abuse they endured, allegedly having a knife pulled on her. After her arraignment, she had to walk past a crowd of dozens of locals screeching hang her! and baby killer! Patricia clung to a Polaroid picture showing her and her own little girl. And the point the hair in her hand wasnt tested was because they didnt need it since they had the killer shame on everyone who went along with that. Patricia Prue also expressed remorse for her husband's actions. She had a history of violence over men, and she had access to the dump site from frequent visits. The Riverside County public defender stated that the court may reduce her first two offences to misdemeanors because they are classified as wobblers. Wobbler refers to a criminal offense that can be classified as either a misdemeanor or a felony. The 5-foot-9-inch-tall Patricia was physically strong, no match for 5-foot-4-inch Joann. Shock, Gloria Smith, the sister of the lost-and-found woman, said at the press conference. Amina Said's mother Patricia Owens Said was not charged with murder. Patricia Owens, Yaser Said was arrested Aug. 26 after authorities searched the Justin home. There is way too much doubt in this case for my comfort. We didnt expect it. Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. Allen and Patricia Prue were arrested two days after Jenkins' death. Everyone lies. Relatives at the time told cops that Yaser threatened bodily harm against Sarah for going on a date with a non-Muslim. Traupman died in 2016. Re Sells, the problem viz some serial killers is in exaggerating the number as a badge of honour. and there are probably many people who still think he is innocent too. And finally, your supercilious comment about Speculative lies Ive perused my previous comments and at no point do I see those words! I live in Pennsylvania, not far from where this happened. No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! Youll have to make do with what you see here. Search it out and check for yourself. She was always looking for a fight, Gary Gabard told the Morning Call, which noted that he was a head shorter than Patricia. Interesting thought about the alibi timing. Looking at the pictures of the scene, after 4 months of the bodies being there allegedly, they were untouched? Not sure why anyone is defending her. For one thing, her mother never asked Sandra Ireland to hide the gun, and she retrieved it on the way home the next day she worked as a bus driver and couldnt take it with her to school. They claim in a 911 call from the night of the murders, Sarah said her father was attacking her. Patricia Rorrer was a cold woman. Search is on. Said Guilty It showed her usually all-brown hair haphazardly highlighted blond. Its never been made clear. Said "This is the 13th case solved after the creation of the cold case task force," said El Dorado County District Attorney Vern Pierson. She has always denied this allegation and says that both she and Lawrence Slaughter are innocent. Larry Wrights sentence was reduced to only two years in prison with five years of parole. (Disclaimer: Im not a big fan of eyewitnesses who come forward years after the fact, but its possible). And because some of Patricias advocates have suggested Andrew Katrinak had a motive for murder, I checked into whether he had a life insurance payout to gain upon Joanns demise. Prosecutors say a 911 call from the night of the murders proves that Said is guilty. Wheres the evidence that Patty was obsessed with Andy? I have all her moms and her jewelry that was given to me when my mom passed away. "I want to apologize personally for the fact that my husband wasn't a strong enough human being to admit his wrongs and be able to take his rightful punishment willingly," she said. "I suggest that it stands for a moment in time where people actually take a moment to take a serious look at how we allocate our resources to social services. She definitely did it. Said Cop defends accused. Sticking to a promise he made before the pair pleaded guilty, the Republican governor announced Tuesday that Mark and Patricia McCloskey were among 12 people granted pardons on Friday. Black said she was glad Said took the witness stand, giving her the chance to poke holes in his story, exposing him to everyone who has been watching this case. Patricia Wouldnt that verify Troutmans claim that the husband was arguing with the victim, in a rage? "The family has been very patient. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded. You, however, consider your ill-informed opinion superior to them not only that, you then go to great lengths to belittle them. Despite the fact it has never been proved thats exactly how it happened, it seems to be accepted as fact it could just as possibly have been the other way round, beaten and then shot. This woman was not innocent, but she is very good at manipulating people into feeling sorry for her. Or did they? We were contacted by some individuals an agent from Interpol, as well as a social worker from Puerto Rico, that believed that they had her in an adult care home there in Puerto Rico, the deputy said during the press conference. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! One of them from his ex-wife, Patricia Owens. "I hope somebody gets their hands on you and hurt you and do everything you ever did to anybody. Its totally irrelevant. SHAME ON THEM. They portray heavily slanted and biased shows. At the time of the killings, police said that there had been domestic problems in the family and that they were exploring all possible motives for the slayings. Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. Agree with all you say but theres so much more involving incompetence, corruption, evidence tampering and then witnesses, in Rorrers favour, who were not disclosed to her defence her trial (something they were legally obliged to do). 2023 www.burlingtonfreepress.com. Patricia and her defense team denied that allegation and said she owned her home, had no financial issues and that Jerome was dying of liver cancer and only had 60 days to live. Nataly Keomoungkhoun, Engagement/Breaking News reporter. Entries in Patricia Prue's journal included vague descriptions of a joint fantasy that she and Allen Prue shared and were looking to fulfill. WebTexas-born Patricia ("Tissie) Said, formerly of the Owens family, is the mother who lured her two teenage daughters, Sarah and Amina, to their deaths at the hands of their own father But to settle for just anyone being the offender offers no justice to the victims and certainly does no merit to those who are woefully lacking in ALL the details of this case, but nevertheless feel the need to vent their spleen on an innocent person. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. I dont think so. The authorities charged her with two counts of murder. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. Bully for you if youve read a lot and seen a lot: its meaningless to other posters and adds nothing to your argument for innocence. The media love the femme fatale., FBI lab blunder. The real killer is Rorrer! At that time he was living in Connecticut. WebPatricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? WATCH LIVE: Ex-boyfriend on trial for allegedly killing womans new beau, WATCH LIVE: Psychic on Trial in Spousal Swindling Case, WATCH LIVE: XXXTentacion murder trial 3 men charged in 2018 shooting death of rapper, Law&Crime Looks Ahead to 10 Remarkable Criminal Trials Scheduled for the First Half of 2023, 9 Shocking Times Defendants Testified at Trial, A bald Alex Murdaugh appears in booking mugshot after hes sentenced to two life terms for killing wife and son, Im a father and I couldnt do this: Florida man convicted of murdering almost 3-month-old baby boy, Jan. 6th rioter who stole Officer Michael Fanones badge following Capitol assault pleads guilty, Former reality TV star gets life sentence for murder-for-hire plot targeting nephew, O.J. I made the confession on tape that I had rehearsed with the LAPD, said Larry Wright. Oh my God. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. Remembering Patricia Cole, former copy editor at NPR : NPR